Synopsis: In view of rumors and slanders spread by the CCP government about the man used by the Holy Spirit in The Church of Almighty God, some people carry out an interview to find out the truth.

Host: Xunguang

Guests: Zhengyi and Xiangming

Xunguang: Inquiring Into the Facts pays close attention to the hot topic about which the public cares the most. In recent years, the rapid development of The Church of Almighty God has attracted widespread attention from countries and the news media. For today’s topic which all of us focus on, we’ve invited two guests from The Church of Almighty God to answer our questions. Hello, Mr. Zhengyi and Mr. Xiangming.

Zhengyi and Xiangming: Hello, good evening.

Xunguang: We all know that, in 1991, the incarnate Almighty God formally began to express the truth and perform His ministry in Mainland China. He has expressed millions of words and is doing the work of judgment beginning with the house of God. True believers who thirst for God’s appearance in all denominations, after hearing God’s voice, have recognized that Almighty God is the returned Lord Jesus in the last days and are turning toward Him one after another. In recent years, Almighty God’s kingdom gospel has been spread to many foreign countries and regions, and His words as well as gospel films, videos and articles testifying about God have been widely disseminated via the Internet, which attracts an increasing number of people to seek and investigate. However, as The Church of Almighty God gradually expands, it triggers the atheistic CCP government’s deep concern and panic. As is known to all, the CCP government has been suppressing and persecuting religious beliefs, and we frequently hear the news that the Christians of The Church of Almighty God are arrested and sentenced by it. We also see a lot of negative words from its official media, in the midst of which there is a conspicuous condemnation of a man that draws our attention: “In 2000, because the Chinese government launched a large-scale, nationwide search for Zhao XX, he fled to New York, the United States, via Tokyo, Japan. In June 2001, he submitted an application for political asylum to the American authorities on the grounds of suffering religious persecution. The authorities who were unaware of the truth approved his request.”

Is that really the case? Considering the CCP’s unsavory reputation of persecuting religious belief and afflicting Christians all along, which is well-known in the international community, to avoid listening to its one-sided statement, let’s welcome these two brothers to dig out the truth for us.

Inquiry I

Xunguang: Almighty God has been working in Mainland China for more than twenty years, and millions of people have turned toward Him. But why does the CCP consume the largest manpower and material resources for solely arresting Zhao XX? It not only offered a reward of more than one million yuan for the capture of him in China, but also does its utmost to attack him with public media. What does Zhao XX serve as in The Church of Almighty God? Why does the CCP spend so much effort on arresting him?

Zhengyi: Bible-readers are all familiar with the story of God ordaining Moses to lead the Israelites when He worked in the Age of Law; it was the first time that God used a man to cooperate with the work of the Holy Spirit. When God incarnate appears and works in the last days, He again ordains a man to lead His chosen people. Zhao XX is the man He ordains in the Age of Kingdom to be in charge of leading and shepherding all people in The Church of Almighty God, and is the man used by the Holy Spirit in the Age of Kingdom. Almighty God says, “The work carried out by the one who is used by God is in order to cooperate with the work of Christ or the Holy Spirit. This man is raised up among man by God, he is there to lead all of God’s chosen ones, and he is also raised up by God in order to do the work of human cooperation. With someone such as this, who is able to do the work of human cooperation, more of God’s requirements toward man and the work that the Holy Spirit must do among man can be achieved through him” (“Concerning God’s Use of Man” in The Word Appears in the Flesh).

Through Almighty God’s words we can learn that Zhao XX, as the predestined and selected man used by the Holy Spirit when God carries out the work of the last days, is the man who cooperates with God’s work and leads His chosen ones to pursue salvation. He leads and shepherds the churches totally in compliance with God’s words. Since he began to be responsible for the church’s work, he has issued a good deal of work arrangements as well as fellowship and sermons to help believers enter into the reality of the truth. And he serves as the “translator” as well as the bridge to help them comprehend God’s words. Through reading the words expressed by Almighty God and hearing the sermons and fellowship of the man used by the Holy Spirit, God’s chosen ones have gradually walked on the path of salvation and have clearly seen the facts about their corruption by Satan, and moreover, they have seen through the atheistic CCP government’s satanic, devilish substance of frenziedly resisting God. When God’s chosen ones have the word of God as their life, they have broken through the bondage of the influence of darkness, not enslaved or controlled by the CCP anymore. No matter how serious the obstacles or persecution they suffer, they persist in their belief in and worship of God. The CCP is very clear that if all the people come to follow God, no one will worship it or believe its atheistic thoughts and communist theory. That will be the time when its desires of making China a place without God and forever enslaving Chinese people are dashed. Hence, it is deeply worried that God’s chosen ones read The Word Appears in the Flesh and that the man used by the Holy Spirit will bring them before God, and it is extremely afraid that God will reign as King among men. The reason why it frenziedly condemns and hunts the man used by the Holy Spirit is that it wants to tear down The Church of Almighty God and God’s work of the last days. After he went abroad because of being persecuted, the CCP is unwilling to admit defeat, spreading various rumors about him and stirring up the antagonism of men toward The Church of Almighty God. Its goal is to hinder man from seeking and investigating God’s work of the last days.

Inquiry II

Xunguang: The CCP claims that it once mobilized the nationwide police to search for the man used by the Holy Spirit in a large-scale way, which makes us feel as if Zhao XX had committed a felony and is a most wanted. Could Zhao XX, a Christian, really break the law? Why is such a man who worships God heart and soul listed as a wanted criminal throughout China?

Xiangming: As the law stands, the wanted criminal must meet three requirements: 1. The wanted man must be a criminal suspect. 2. The suspect should meet the conditions of arrest. 3. The suspect surely shirks the legal liability and his present whereabouts is unknown. Only those who fulfil the above-mentioned requirements can be legitimately and legally wanted. It is obvious that the CCP cannot list any sinful fact of the man used by the Holy Spirit or tell which law he has broken, but just says that he submitted an application for political asylum to the American authorities on the grounds of suffering religious persecution without them knowing the truth. From it, we understand that the CCP gives orders to arrest him just because he believes in and serves God. The CCP government is quite clear that if the leader of The Church of Almighty God is not eliminated, he will lead and shepherd us, God’s chosen ones, all the while to make us better understand the truth and further strengthen our faith in Almighty God and our love for Him. When we all understand the truth and are made into overcomers by God, we will not be restrained or bound by any of Satan’s forces anymore, and can worship and serve God wholeheartedly, and the CCP will be thoroughly abandoned. Therefore, it simply ignores the international human rights treaties and the condemnation from the international community, and just stops at nothing to arrest him.

Inquiry III

Xunguang: All right. We see that the CCP is unable to obtain its desire all the while. After the man used by the Holy Spirit went abroad, it circulates rumors through the media that Zhao XX has already fled abroad. It is incomprehensible to many people how this action—a Christian going abroad to properly believe in God and preach the gospel because the atheistic government wanted him—can be called fleeing arrest. How should we view this issue?

Zhengyi: It’s quite simple. Let’s look at those apostles and missionaries throughout the ages who preached the Lord’s way, and then we can know the answer.

In 1583, Matteo Ricci, an Italian missionary, sailed across the ocean to preach in China. At that time, the gospel of the Lord Jesus’ redemption of mankind spread by him was welcomed and esteemed by Chinese scholar-bureaucrats.

In 1605, Gao Yizhi, an Italian missionary of the Societas Iesu, went to China to preach. He left China in 1616, and at the end of 1624, he returned to Shanxi, China to resume preaching until he passed away.

In 1853, James Hudson Taylor, a British missionary who was only 21 years old, bade farewell to his parents and went to China to preach the Lord’s way. Since then he had never left China.

In 1885, Herbert Dixon, a British missionary, in company with his wife, left their four young children behind in England to preach in China until they were martyred in Xinzhou, Shanxi in 1900.

In 1916, Zhong Aihua, an American missionary, went to preach in China and engaged in medical missionary work for 25 years. He was also one of those who dedicated most of their lives to Chinese Christians.

For thousands of years, it was precisely these missionaries who crossed borders to spread God’s gospel all over the world. None of the democratic countries have ever condemned them as fugitives. If we say that preaching the gospel abroad means fleeing arrest, could it be said that all Christian churches are formed by criminals who fled from punishment? And that Christians can believe in God at all times and in all countries is because they accept the gospel preached by fugitives? In order to complete the work of the church and to expand God’s kingdom gospel, the man used by the Holy Spirit went abroad. How could he be related to the phrase “fleeing arrest”? Obviously, the CCP’s nonsense is purely the discredit against The Church of Almighty God and the smear against him. For the sake of tearing down God’s work of the last days, it has told a pack of lies and stops at no evil. It has fabricated rumors to publicly antagonize God and Christians from ancient times to the present day. So, none of the words spread by the CCP are worth believing in.

Inquiry IV

Xunguang: What on earth is the true meaning of fleeing arrest? Since the man used by the Holy Spirit is wanted by the CCP in China, why did he run the risk of going abroad?

Xiangming: People with basic legal knowledge are clear that fleeing arrest means that one absconds to avoid punishment after breaking the law and escapes the government’s arrest in a premeditated and planned way. The man used by the Holy Spirit is a man who preaches the gospel to testify to and serve God, yet he, without breaking any law or regulation of the state, is wanted throughout China by the CCP government. Under this circumstance, one will choose to hide out, rather than rashly appear at the Chinese customs which are heavily guarded. Nevertheless, the man used by the Holy Spirit took the risk. Unexpectedly, he passed the careful examination of the CCP’s military guard and then left China smoothly. In fact, it was completely God’s care and protection, because what he did followed God’s will.

Zhengyi: That’s right. Let’s read Almighty God’s words, “Know that when My work spreads, I will scatter you, and smite you just as Jehovah smote each of the tribes of Israel. All this will be done so that My gospel may spread across the earth, so that it may reach the Gentile nations, so that My name may be magnified by adults and children alike, and My holy name exalted in the mouths of people from all tribes and nations” (“The Work of Spreading the Gospel Is Also the Work of Saving Man” in The Word Appears in the Flesh). “Let all come before My throne and see My glorious countenance, hear My voice, and look upon My deeds. This is the entirety of My will; it is the end and the climax of My plan, as well as the purpose of My management. Let every nation worship Me, every tongue acknowledge Me, every man repose his faith in Me, and every people be subject unto Me!” (“The Seven Thunders Peal—Prophesying That the Gospel of the Kingdom Shall Spread Throughout the Universe” in The Word Appears in the Flesh).

To have all countries and regions hear the kingdom gospel, and to make all nations as well as all peoples return before God’s throne and worship the only true God, are the will which God is going to accomplish at the end of His six-thousand-year management plan. The man used by the Holy Spirit going abroad is precisely to do His will. Just like in the Age of Law, when God called Moses to bring the Israelites out of Egypt, he was fully aware that he had been chased by the Egyptian Pharaoh to the wilderness, and that if he returned to Egypt he would surely be in danger. But he deeply knew that it was God’s will for him to return to Egypt, which he must obey. He believed as well that since God had promised to lead the Israelites out of Egypt, His promise must be fulfilled. So, he accepted God’s commission and went back to Egypt. Then, God descended the ten plagues on Egypt to force the Egyptian Pharaoh to give Moses permission to bring the Israelites out of Egypt, and He parted the Red Sea in order that Moses could succeed in leading the Israelites out of the hunting of the Egyptian soldiers. Ultimately, Moses accomplished God’s will under His leadership and guidance. Similarly, under the circumstances that the man used by the Holy Spirit in the Age of Kingdom is wanted by the CCP, if he was not for following God’s will, and if there were no care and protection of God, it would have been impossible for him to avoid the CCP’s arrest easily and pass the examination of Chinese customs smoothly without any assist from outside forces. Almighty God says, “Of everything that occurs in the universe, there is nothing in which I do not have the final say. Is there anything that is not in My hands? Whatever I say is done, and who among human beings can change My mind?” (“Chapter 1” of God’s Words to the Entire Universe in The Word Appears in the Flesh). That the man used by the Holy Spirit could leave China successfully to shoulder the work of expanding the kingdom gospel abroad is entirely God’s sovereignty and arrangement and the leading and guidance of the Holy Spirit Himself.

Inquiry V

Xunguang: After your fellowship, the background and the reason for the man used by the Holy Spirit, who could avoid the CCP’s arrest and go abroad smoothly, are perfectly clear. After he arrived in America and soon got political asylum from the American government, the CCP spread rumors again, this time saying that the American authorities who were unaware of the facts approved his application for political asylum. Could it be possible that the American government grants political asylum so casually?

Zhengyi: The Bible says, “Blessed is the nation whose God is Jehovah; and the people whom he has chosen for his own inheritance” (Psalm 33:12). One former president of the United States also said, “If we ever forget that we are ‘One nation, under God,’ then we will be one nation gone under.” Hence, America has been respecting freedom of belief since its establishment, and its government has been providing political asylum for foreigners who suffer political or religious persecution. According to the American laws, asylum may be granted to people who are persecuted because of their race, religion, nationality, membership in a particular social group, political opinion, and are unable or unwilling to return to their home country. The immigration office will decide whether or not to grant them political asylum on the basis of their evidence of being persecuted. It is thus evident that the American government has a justified and lawful procedure for examining and approving political asylum applications. That the man used by the Holy Spirit could receive political asylum from the American government shows that it acknowledged the fact that he was persecuted by the CCP government. Accordingly, it is also completely legitimate and legal for him to get political asylum.

Xiangming: In fact, not only in America, but in many countries with relatively sound democracy and legal systems, all cases are handled in accordance with the law, the fact, and the evidence. None of the democratic governments will grant refugee status to an applicant at random and without evidence, much less ignore the asylum application submitted by the applicants who are persecuted by the CCP. The CCP makes slanderous remarks that the American authorities granted Zhao XX political asylum because they were unaware of the facts, from which we can see that in order to defame him, the CCP becomes frenzied with anxiety, being desperate and disregarding anything. It would rather flout international human rights regulations and make enemies of the United States than not discredit him, so as to prevent people from seeking and investigating God’s work of the last days, and ruin man’s opportunity of being saved. This is its real purpose.

Xunguang: Well, it appears that rumors are not frightful, and the crux is that when facing rumors, one can seek the truth and rely on God to ascertain the facts and see through the rumormonger’s intentions and purposes. Through today’s fellowship and discernment, the CCP’s plots to discredit The Church of Almighty God and to slander the man used by the Holy Spirit have been thoroughly exposed, and the facts have floated before our eyes. The Lord Jesus said, “My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me” (John 10:27). Only if one investigates God’s work and utterances practically, can he see God’s appearance and keep pace with God’s work. Anyone blindly believing rumors may lose his life, while the one seeking and investigating the truth is the most blessed one. God once said, “Blessed are the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven” (Matthew 5:3). My friends, now, do you still believe the CCP’s rumors and refuse to seek and investigate God’s work of the last days?

Thank God for leading our interview. Thank you for watching. See you!